Comments on: It is time for us all to “Man Up” when it comes to Hillary http://www.democraticdiva.com/2008/05/08/it-is-time-for-us-all-to-man-up-when-it-comes-to-hillary/ because a well-behaved diva rarely makes history Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:03:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Dana http://www.democraticdiva.com/2008/05/08/it-is-time-for-us-all-to-man-up-when-it-comes-to-hillary/#comment-4940 Dana Mon, 12 May 2008 02:28:21 +0000 http://www.democraticdiva.com/2008/05/08/it-is-time-for-us-all-to-man-up-when-it-comes-to-hillary/#comment-4940 One of the reasons Hillary has done so well in the key battleground states, is the demographics mainly Senior voters. My biggest concern if Obama gets the nomination is the senior voters. No president has won election without the senior vote except of course Gore, but he won he just didn't get the key. Seniors are most likely going to go for McCain. The story in the AZ republic on the youth vote shoud raise huge red flags to all Obama supporters. I am not saying he can't win this key block of voters- Seniors, but it will be an uphill battle and McCain voted against the Medicare Modernization Act (for all the wrong reasons). So you have to take on Social Security which is not a winning issue among the youth- he will have to continue to increase voter turnout with the youth which he failed to do in Arizona as well as many other very important states that he must win to get the nomination. One of the reasons Hillary has done so well in the key battleground states, is the demographics mainly Senior voters. My biggest concern if Obama gets the nomination is the senior voters. No president has won election without the senior vote except of course Gore, but he won he just didn’t get the key. Seniors are most likely going to go for McCain. The story in the AZ republic on the youth vote shoud raise huge red flags to all Obama supporters. I am not saying he can’t win this key block of voters- Seniors, but it will be an uphill battle and McCain voted against the Medicare Modernization Act (for all the wrong reasons). So you have to take on Social Security which is not a winning issue among the youth- he will have to continue to increase voter turnout with the youth which he failed to do in Arizona as well as many other very important states that he must win to get the nomination.

]]> By: Donna http://www.democraticdiva.com/2008/05/08/it-is-time-for-us-all-to-man-up-when-it-comes-to-hillary/#comment-4939 Donna Sun, 11 May 2008 17:25:36 +0000 http://www.democraticdiva.com/2008/05/08/it-is-time-for-us-all-to-man-up-when-it-comes-to-hillary/#comment-4939 As an Obama supporter, I want Sen. Clinton to stay in through WV and KY, for purely pragmatic reasons that benefit my own candidate. If she dropped out before those contests there's a strong likelihood she'd still win them since she would be on the ballot. That would not look good for Obama. Plus, its an opportunity for him to raise more money and meet voters in those states. I predict an easy Clinton victory in both of them, but with Obama narrowing the lead substantially through his excellent grassroots machine. As an Obama supporter, I want Sen. Clinton to stay in through WV and KY, for purely pragmatic reasons that benefit my own candidate. If she dropped out before those contests there’s a strong likelihood she’d still win them since she would be on the ballot. That would not look good for Obama.

Plus, its an opportunity for him to raise more money and meet voters in those states. I predict an easy Clinton victory in both of them, but with Obama narrowing the lead substantially through his excellent grassroots machine.

]]> By: Atticus http://www.democraticdiva.com/2008/05/08/it-is-time-for-us-all-to-man-up-when-it-comes-to-hillary/#comment-4928 Atticus Sat, 10 May 2008 21:10:29 +0000 http://www.democraticdiva.com/2008/05/08/it-is-time-for-us-all-to-man-up-when-it-comes-to-hillary/#comment-4928 It was a closely fought and good campaign, but facts are facts. She's lost the popular vote, she's lost the delegate count, she's won half the states Obama has and now because the original rules she agreed to play by don't favor her she's trying to change them, but even then, she STILL can't make up the difference. If she stays in, I don't really care, because I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing. But the fact remains that there is no way she can be the nominee without tearing down the Democratic party. And Debra you know better than that. This is not a gender thing, and you know it. It was a closely fought and good campaign, but facts are facts. She’s lost the popular vote, she’s lost the delegate count, she’s won half the states Obama has and now because the original rules she agreed to play by don’t favor her she’s trying to change them, but even then, she STILL can’t make up the difference.

If she stays in, I don’t really care, because I don’t think it is necessarily a bad thing. But the fact remains that there is no way she can be the nominee without tearing down the Democratic party.

And Debra you know better than that. This is not a gender thing, and you know it.

]]> By: Jim http://www.democraticdiva.com/2008/05/08/it-is-time-for-us-all-to-man-up-when-it-comes-to-hillary/#comment-4923 Jim Sat, 10 May 2008 04:53:43 +0000 http://www.democraticdiva.com/2008/05/08/it-is-time-for-us-all-to-man-up-when-it-comes-to-hillary/#comment-4923 This is so hipocritical. If Obama was down by one delegate, the drumbeat would be very load for him to drop out. This is so hipocritical. If Obama was down by one delegate, the drumbeat would be very load for him to drop out.

]]> By: VWgal http://www.democraticdiva.com/2008/05/08/it-is-time-for-us-all-to-man-up-when-it-comes-to-hillary/#comment-4917 VWgal Fri, 09 May 2008 16:31:54 +0000 http://www.democraticdiva.com/2008/05/08/it-is-time-for-us-all-to-man-up-when-it-comes-to-hillary/#comment-4917 Absolutely. Neither one should step down, lets finish these primaries first. Absolutely. Neither one should step down, lets finish these primaries first.

]]> By: Doug Marquardt http://www.democraticdiva.com/2008/05/08/it-is-time-for-us-all-to-man-up-when-it-comes-to-hillary/#comment-4914 Doug Marquardt Fri, 09 May 2008 01:19:57 +0000 http://www.democraticdiva.com/2008/05/08/it-is-time-for-us-all-to-man-up-when-it-comes-to-hillary/#comment-4914 Agreed! I fear she may be the next Al Gore - wins the popular vote but loses the primary. Our Editor at All Things Democrat just posted on the demonization of HRC... http://www.allthingsdemocrat.com/2008/05/06/is-there-a-deliberate-demonization-of-hillary-clinton/ Excellent blog, by the way. Agreed! I fear she may be the next Al Gore - wins the popular vote but loses the primary. Our Editor at All Things Democrat just posted on the demonization of HRC… http://www.allthingsdemocrat.com/2008/05/06/is-there-a-deliberate-demonization-of-hillary-clinton/

Excellent blog, by the way.

]]> By: Debra Boehlke http://www.democraticdiva.com/2008/05/08/it-is-time-for-us-all-to-man-up-when-it-comes-to-hillary/#comment-4913 Debra Boehlke Thu, 08 May 2008 23:01:03 +0000 http://www.democraticdiva.com/2008/05/08/it-is-time-for-us-all-to-man-up-when-it-comes-to-hillary/#comment-4913 I couldn't agree more! When Reagan ran a campaign all the way to the convention with Ford, the Dukasis nomination, Kennedy and Carter and on and on- I can list for races that battled until a nominee was chosen and NO ONE asked a man to step down and quit- They only ask HRC "the little lady" to quit- why should she quit when we don't yet have a nominee!!!! I love her more and more every day for staying in and fighting it out - half the people who weighed in all these primaries want her and half want him - it is too close for either of them to step down! I couldn’t agree more!
When Reagan ran a campaign all the way to the convention with Ford, the Dukasis nomination, Kennedy and Carter and on and on- I can list for races that battled until a nominee was chosen and NO ONE asked a man to step down and quit- They only ask HRC “the little lady” to quit- why should she quit when we don’t yet have a nominee!!!! I love her more and more every day for staying in and fighting it out - half the people who weighed in all these primaries want her and half want him - it is too close for either of them to step down!

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