Anti-choice AZ GOP legislators continue to promote idea that women don’t really ever pay for anything, refuse to protect doctors’ personal info
Posted by: Donna
Taxpayers won't be funding abortions in AZ's exchange plans this year under SB 1318. Joining 23 other states. Passed Senate-now on to House!
— Nancy Barto (@NancyBarto) February 20, 2015
Sen. Barto was gloating about SB1318 passing the Senate on Thursday afternoon. Here’s Sen. Kelli Ward (R) echoing the “pay for it yourselves, floozies” canard:
@Marshall86 in SB1318 she decides and pays; taxpayer doesn't pay – why is that difficult for you to grasp?
— Senator Kelli Ward (@kelliwardaz) February 19, 2015
What neither Senator cares to acknowledge is that taxpayers had nothing to do with the provision in 1318 that disallows coverage of abortion in any health care exchange plan offered in the state, even if a woman opts to purchase a separate rider with her own damn floozy money. Of course, as I’ve explained before, the idea of women earning money in jobs and paying insurance premiums appears to be incomprehensible to anti-choicers.
The other part of SB1318 requires abortion doctors to submit documentation that they have admitting privileges at a local hospital.
— Robbie Sherwood (@RobbieSherwood) February 19, 2015
We all know doctors being harassed and threatened is a feature, not a bug, of this program. Let’s not forget how the director of AZ NARAL got threatened with a surprise inspection of her home recently, thanks to a law passed last year. In case there’s any doubt of their intentions:
Sen. Steve Smith labeling women who exercise their right to abortion murderers is why doctors are in danger if their info is public. #sb1318
— Robbie Sherwood (@RobbieSherwood) February 19, 2015
Oh, and it took a floor amendment to exclude women whose lives or health are endangered by the pregnancy, or who have been raped, from the ban on coverage:
— Robbie Sherwood (@RobbieSherwood) February 19, 2015
Anti-choicers were really going to deny a woman with life threatening pregnancy complications insurance coverage for the termination, which could run into several thousands of dollars depending upon how difficult the operation might be. Chew on that. And again, this was even if she had paid entirely for all her insurance premiums out of her own pocket.
Oh wait, no, she could not possibly have done that since women are utterly dependent upon “taxpayers” (a group that does not include women of childbearing age, apparently) for all our reproductive health care needs, according to anti-choicers. Our money is just play money.
Posted by: Donna
It definitely seems as if this is the Year of Going After the Poor with a Vengeance for Republicans in the Arizona Legislature. Which is saying something, since these are people who have shown an abundance of enthusiasm for punishing low income residents for their (real or imagined) transgressions for several years now. Bills going through committees this session target poor people’s public assistance and voting rights, perpetuating narratives about their being shiftless and untrustworthy. (And the usurious lenders that Arizona voters drop-kicked out of the state in 2008 are back.)
The complete takeover of our state by Americans For Prosperity (funded by the Koch brothers) types in the 2014 election has created the perfect conditions for a total war on low income people. There’s not likely to be much push-back on it from the public as we non-poor Americans are a bunch of judgmental pricks about poor people’s life choices, as Bryce Covert of Mother Jones notes:
Food stamp resentment, as Arthur Delaney has coined it, is a year-round phenomenon. It’s when a random shopper decides that he or she has the authority to dictate what poor people buy with the food stamps that come to a tiny bit over $4 a day, on average. The reason: that this food is being bought with “our” tax dollars, so we should have a say in what it can buy.
It’s an old complaint, as Delaney documents. A 1993 Columbus Dispatch letter to the editor decried a recipient who bought “two bottles of wine, steak and a large bag of king crab legs” with food stamps. Beyond candy, steaks and crab legs come up a lot. Texas Representative Louie Gohmert told a story on the floor of the House about a supposed constituent who was buying king crab legs in line ahead of him with an EBT card. “Because he does pay income tax…he is actually helping pay for the king crab legs when he can’t pay for them for himself,” Gohmert claimed. Wisconsin State Representative Dean Kaufert told a similar story, but the person in line watched a food stamp recipient buy “the tenderloin, the porterhouse” with the benefits.
What is up with the crab legs constantly appearing in these urban legends?
The conviction that poor people are scamming the system dovetails nicely with the “just world” hypothesis, which is the belief that any bad predicaments people are in are the direct result of their own foolish or immoral choices. This “just world” view assumes that poor people are abdicating their responsibilities while not taking into account their lack of power.
But if the world were truly just, then these people would never get away with their actions.
When the housing market tanked a few years ago, the government rescued every bank and business (even a damned insurance company), while ignoring everyone else. I realized that the game was fatally lopsided, so I didn’t just walk away in middle-class shame, but rather I employed all my (extremely limited) cunning and deviousness to get a similar home before ditching the old one. I was able to cash in on low housing prices from a couple of years ago, coupled with low interest rates, to come out on top. The biggest barrier to getting a great deal was an almost overpowering need to behave like a middle-class sucker.
I was taught growing up to “keep my word” and that your handshake “meant something.” Yet businessmen and individual wealthy people make decisions that are far less moral than a short sale. People “incorporate” so they can avoid legal responsibility for individual actions. It works great. You can stiff creditors, declare bankruptcy, pollute daily and raid pensions to enrich individual executives. If it all goes wrong, like it has so often for Donald Trump, you can keep your mansions and individual fortunes. It is no accident that the best-paid CEO in America has never made a dime for the company. If regular Americans acted like corporations and the moneyed class, our country would collapse in a week from systemic theft, corruption and greed.
I always knew business was getting over on me, but I had no idea the extent until I started looking to short-sell. I first learned all I could about private home financing. I called up some shady investment groups around town and questioned them at length. I didn’t end up using them, but they were frank, informative and unashamed.
“Who would pay 11 percent on a home loan?” I asked.
“Rich people,” said “Bill” from the legal loan-sharking company. “The rich have terrible credit.”
Rich people = bad credit: Just let that sink in.
Bill told me in roundabout ways that rich people never pay a bill if there is any way around it. If something goes wrong in an investment or a business, they always preserve their own assets first. We’ve all heard the generalization that they’re lousy tippers.
I’m guessing they consume more crab legs per capita than the average food stamp recipient. In Arizona, such people are promised a boon in taxpayer funding for their progeny to attend private schools. It would come, of course, with no threat of a Gladys Kravitz poking through their grocery baskets looking for those crab legs.
Posted by: Donna
It looks like the GOP majority in the AZ Legislature has figured out what the real “dark money” problem in our state is. Apparently, it’s with the $5 qualifying contributions to Clean Elections candidates made in cash. Lord only knows where that money has been!
16-946. Qualifying contributions
A. During the qualifying period, a participating candidate may collect qualifying contributions, which shall be paid to the fund.
B. To qualify as a qualifying contribution, a contribution must be:
1. Made by a qualified elector as defined in section 16‑121, who at the time of the contribution is registered in the electoral district of the office the candidate is seeking and who has not given another qualifying contribution to that candidate during that election cycle.
2. Made by a person who is not given anything of value in exchange for the qualifying contribution.
3. In the sum of five dollars, exactly.
4. Received unsolicited during the qualifying period or solicited during the qualifying period by a person who is not employed or retained by the candidate and who is not compensated to collect contributions by the candidate or on behalf of the candidate.
5. If Made by check or money order, ONLY AND made payable to the candidate’s campaign committee,
or if in cash, deposited in the candidate’s campaign committee’s account. A PARTICIPATING CANDIDATE AND THE CANDIDATE’S CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE MAY NOT ACCEPT CASH CONTRIBUTIONS.
Disallowing qualifying $5 contributions to candidates in cash is an ingenious way to make it more difficult for Democrats to use Clean Elections. Low income and young people are not likely to have a checkbook in their immediate possession and probably don’t have the time and energy to wait in line at a convenience or grocery store to buy a money order.
The committee ultimately submitted an amendment that appears to have stripped out the ban on $5 contributions made in cash (which doesn’t mean it won’t come back later) but instead makes it clear that you Democratic candidates and voters had better have your shit totally together:
F. THE COMMISSION SHALL ESTABLISH A RANDOM AUDITING PROCESS FOR REPORTING SLIPS THAT PROVIDES FOR A REVIEW OF A SAMPLE OF QUALIFYING CONTRIBUTIONS TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE CONTRIBUTIONS WERE MADE BY THE PERSON WHO SIGNED THE REPORTING SLIP. THE SECRETARY OF STATE SHALL PROVIDE TO THE COMMISSION THE INFORMATION THE COMMISSION DEEMS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE PROCESS.
Well, of course Secretary of State Reagan will provide the “information” deemed necessary to determine if a Clean Elections contribution is legitimate or not. My guess is that you had better have some excellent handwriting and precise skills at filling out forms, Democratic voters. It’s like the poll test of yore, except fresher!
Posted by: Donna
Arizona Board of Regents member Greg Patterson, aka the Espresso Pundit, has come at me with what pedantic mansplainers everywhere consider to be the most potent weapon they have in their arsenal. In other words, Patterson is accusing me of committing a logical fallacy. Sexist pedants love to trot out the List of Logical Fallacies to slay the arguments of women who disagree with them because ladies are so emotional and illogical amirite? However, since these pedants so often mistake their own opinions for objective fact, their attempts to characterize things as logical fallacies tend to go comically awry, as we see here:
Here’s an example of actual Ad Hominem. In which Braham Resnik refers to Diane Douglass as a “girl” and I question whether the reference is professional or appropriate. Donna Gratehouse then tries to dismiss my point because…I’m pro-life. Because pro life people apparently can’t complain when a reporter refers to the Superintendent of Public instruction as a “girl.”
This attempt to rebut my argument by attacking my character is classic ad hominem. Here’s the exchange.
I responded the way I did because Patterson’s outrage rang fake and hollow to me, as per usual with conservatives who get all kinds of pearl clutchy over sexism when one of their own women is insulted by a liberal or someone perceived to be but then go right back to working diligently to hurt all other women. Anti-choicers especially have no credibility in these situations.
The two fallacies mansplainers go to the most to try and shut down critics are the straw man and the ad hominem, most likely because there’s more ambiguity to exploit in them than with more formal fallacies. Patterson accuses me of committing a “classic ad hominem” fallacy (adding “classic” to it for a nice little pedantic flourish) incorrectly.
An ad hominem (Latin for “to the man” or “to the person”), short for argumentum ad hominem, means responding to arguments by attacking a person’s character, rather than to the content of their arguments. When used inappropriately, it is a fallacy in which a claim or argument is dismissed on the basis of some irrelevant fact or supposition about the author or the person being criticized.
An example of a fallacious ad hominem would be if I were to dismiss Mabel’s argument that vaccines should be mandatory on the basis of her being divorced. That fact about Mabel is irrelevant to what she is asserting about vaccination. The same cannot be said for my mockery of a “pro-life” person’s sudden indignation over what was, at most, unintentional sexism by Brahm Resnik toward Superintendent Douglas. Being anti-choice is not a neutral characteristic that has no bearing on one’s attitude toward women. We are talking about a movement that is not only dedicated to criminalizing abortion and severely limiting contraception access but that has a long and well-known history of misogyny.
Which is not to say that I’m claiming that Greg Patterson agrees with Rush Limbaugh that women who want insurance to cover their birth control are sluts who should send him sex tapes and that he’d like to see abortions have to be done via guns. Or with Todd Akin that there are “legitimate” rapes and ones that are not. Or with people who terrify women trying to enter clinics. Or that he thinks this is a great movie. If I were to claim those things simply on the basis of Patterson identifying as “pro-life” then I would be engaging in the fallacy known as “guilt by association”. (For what it’s worth, though, Patterson has given his full-throated support to bad anti-choice laws and politicians with awful views on women on many occasions over the years.)
Under the most charitable assumption of what informs Patterson’s “pro-life” beliefs – that it’s all about the precious unborn babies (which perhaps he imagines as floating about un-tethered to anything or anyone?) and that he bears no ill will toward women at all – what he wants passed into law reduces pregnant people to the legal status of subhuman incubators and leads to (mostly) poor women being prosecuted for abortion and bad pregnancy outcomes. Of course, like many anti-choicers, Patterson may insist that wanting to restrict abortion access is not anti-woman at all. But that would be a difference of opinion on the humanity and bodily autonomy of women between him and me, not of any kind of illogic on my part.
Mansplainers, learn what logical fallacies are and aren’t and stop embarrassing yourselves!
Posted by: Donna
I’ll say one thing for Howie Fischer of Arizona Capitol Media Services – he has a long record of thorough coverage on the battle over reproductive rights here and of getting opponents of it on record. Fischer’s report on Wednesday’s Senate Health and Human Services Committee vote on SB1318 contains this interesting nugget from Center for Arizona Policy head Cathi Herrod (italics and emphasis mine):
Five years ago legislators voted to say that policies offered through a state-based health insurance exchange could not include abortion coverage. Instead, women would have to purchase that through a separate rider and pay an additional premium.
As it turned out, Arizona never set up its own exchange. Instead, residents can choose from plans offered elsewhere.
Sen. Nancy Barto, R-Phoenix, said 41 of the 199 available plans offer insurance coverage (for abortion, I assume). And she said 90 percent of those covered under the Affordable Care Act getting some sort of subsidies.
“So taxpayers are on the hook for elective abortions,” she said.
SB 1318 expands the prohibition to bar abortion coverage in any policy offered by anyone through the Affordable Care Act.
But it actually goes farther: Arizonans would lose the right to even purchase separate coverage. Herrod said she’s convinced that this coverage is also subsidized.
Why does Cathi Herrod presume that women electing to purchase supplemental riders to cover abortion can only do it by being subsidized? Well, it could be related to the sheer amount of commentary I get from anti-choicers on social media who insist they are not opposed to birth control but they just want you stupid lazy women to…wait for it…“pay for it yourselves!”
No amount of my explaining to these dipwads that women do, in fact, work and pay both taxes and insurance premiums seems to sink through their thick skulls. Oh no, they are convinced that millions of American women are lolling about upon millions of couches, scarfing millions of bon bons while fiendishly plotting to have several abortions, and also several babies, and somehow also to participate in constant sex orgies enabled by free birth control. If that seems confusing to you, then you must be a reasonable person and unaware of the bizarro world concocted by anti-choicers to portray women (who are not white, married, and Republican) as a rabid horde of frowzy skanks hellbent on slutting it up while not working and living entirely off your dime.
“So taxpayers are on the hook for elective abortions,” as Senator Nancy Barto (R) claims, presses the false assertion that women who have abortions don’t also pay taxes. Barto further implies that the only taxpayers who matter are those who are anti-choice. Where did this idea come from that only people who object to abortion and birth control get a special carve-out from their obligation to contribute to the common good? After all, I’ve been paying taxes nonstop since 1985, despite my being a woman who has used birth control and has had an abortion. I’m totally fine with subsidizing both those things! Could Senator Barto or Cathi Herrod point me to where I could get my Iraq War refund?
Posted by: Donna
Photo: Howard Fischer, AZ Capitol Media Services
So Center for AZ Policy had its God botherer hoedown at the State Legislature on Wednesday, in which they were given a speech by Governor Ducey where he said this:
“I am proudly pro-life” the governor told a rally of members of the anti-abortion Center for Arizona Policy. “And I look forward to working with you on those issues.”
But Ducey said there are things that need to happen.
“We have 16,900 children that are now outside of the womb and are wards of the state,” he continued.
“And I’m asking specifically for your help as an organization, the faith-based community to re-engage in this issue of child safety, whether it’s foster parents, whether it’s adoption, whether it’s as a court-appointed special advocate for these children,” Ducey said. “These are the most vulnerable in our society and they are in many situations not being cared for properly.”
Ducey linked his plea with his effort to “fix” the Department of Child Safety. He took the first steps toward that Tuesday by firing its prior director and installing Greg McKay to head it.
“And I’m specifically asking for the faith-based community and for the Center for Arizona Policy to help,”
This was such a bold observation that even Center for Arizona Policy head Cathi Herrod was forced to admit that policing people’s sex lives has been such a time consuming endeavor for her organization that they had been giving the issue of taking care of born children short shrift.
CAP President Cathi Herrod conceded that until now her organization has been only “somewhat” involved with issues of child safety and foster care.
“We can do more and we can do so much better,” she said. “The faith-based community can do more and I believe will do more.”
In fairness, it’s not like CAP has been doing nothing to address children in need of stable homes.
Senate Bill 1188, which was sponsored by Sen. Linda Gray, R-Glendale, would require an adoption agency to give primary consideration to adoptive placement with a married man and woman, with all other criteria being equal…
…”The governor’s action today is harmful to children in foster care and group homes who are seeking a permanent home and the support of a loving, caring family,” Mann said.
But Cathi Herrod, president of the Center for Arizona Policy and a strong advocate of SB 1188, said Monday that the bill was among those that dealt with “critical issues of life, marriage and religious liberty,” and that she was “grateful” for the governor’s support.
Isn’t that special?
I do find it refreshing when a conservative calls out his compatriots who oppose women’s reproductive freedom for their glaring lack of interest in poor and vulnerable children post-birth. I also take Governor Ducey at his word that he believes that faith groups like CAP can and should step up to help the thousands of Arizona children needing foster or adoptive parents*.
The timing of Ducey’s statement does warrant skepticism, coming as it did when the newly-formed Department of Child Safety is in the midst of a shake-up and an anti-abortion bill championed by CAP was being debated in a Senate committee on Wednesday afternoon, oh-so-coincidentally on the same day as the CAP Day at the Capitol activities.
If one were cynical, one might conclude that Governor Ducey was trying to create a distraction from those things while taking advantage of an opportunity to soften his own image but, eh, whatever. What is most salient, at least in my estimation, is that Doug Ducey (or someone in his administration) is clearly aware that the “pro-life” conservatives who have been running Arizona for decades don’t look credible on child welfare, with good reason, since their policies have demonstrably not led to good outcomes for children.
*I’d prefer that Cathi Herrod stay as far away from children as possible, which is exactly the same as I feel about her proximity to any other living entity.
Posted by: Donna
On Wednesday a bunch of nuisances with way too much time on their hands and a burning desire to meddle in your personal life on behalf of Jesus will descend upon the Arizona State Capitol.
Sounds like a barrel of laughs but I’ll pass. This event coincides with a Senate Health and Human Services Committee hearing where they will be voting on SB1318, which is yet another attempt to restrict abortion under the guise of “safety”. The bill requires all doctors performing abortions at clinics to have admitting privileges at a local hospital.
Like all other TRAP laws, admitting privileges are a complete crock of crap, as Imani Gandy explains in RH Reality Check:
At first blush, these laws may seem sensible enough, especially if you believe that abortion is a dangerous procedure and providers should have hospital admitting privileges in case something goes horribly awry. Such is the concern of anti-choicers pushing for the Wisconsin law, as Susan Armacost, legislative director of Wisconsin Right to Life, noted in a July 5 statement. “Apparently, Wisconsin’s abortion clinics don’t believe their abortionists need to have hospital privileges at a hospital located within 30 miles of their clinic … or anywhere at all,” she said. “Currently, when a woman experiences hemorrhaging or other life-threatening complications after an abortion in Wisconsin, the clinic puts her in an ambulance and sends her to a hospital ALONE where she is left to her own devices to explain her medical issues to the emergency room staff. The abortionist who performed the abortion is nowhere to be seen. This deplorable situation must change.”
But documents submitted to the federal court in Wisconsin overseeing the case paint a very different picture of the admitting privileges law. According to Dr. Douglas Laube, a board-certified OB-GYN since 1976, the admitting privileges requirement is “medically unjustified and will have serious consequences for women’s health in Wisconsin.”
As Dr. Laube explained to the court, abortion is one of the safest medical procedures in the United States, alarmist claims to the contrary notwithstanding.
Note how the anti-choicer uses alarmist and emotionally-charged language but has no real argument to substantiate the need for admitting privileges. If a patient getting any type of treatment at a clinic – be it abortion, colonoscopy, root canal, whatever – goes into a life-threatening medical emergency an ambulance is going to be called and they will be taken to the nearest emergency room. Whether or not the doctor at the clinic has admitting privileges is utterly irrelevant. And EMTs and hospital staff are trained to recognize symptoms and stabilize and treat patients so this notion of a poor damsel in distress being left alone (ALONE!) to deal with her medical emergency is both absurd and insulting.
The obvious aim of this bill is to drive abortion clinics out of business since it’s very difficult for abortion doctors to get the admitting privileges because hospitals fear all the harassment they’ll get from (guess who?) anti-choicers. So the effect of this, should it go into law, will be to make abortion a far more unsafe proposition for a large number of women who will be forced into seeking abortion care on the illegal black market. Even if, unlike me, you want to take the most charitable view possible of the motives of anti-choicers with these TRAP laws and assume they are acting out of a good faith desire to protect women, you have to admit that their efforts have been a spectacular failure at making abortion safer.
Here’s a neat little thing about abortion law in Arizona that you may be unaware of: It has an exception written into it that just so happens to make it so that some affluent ladies are able to have their “procedures” done by their private physicians with no one bothering them.
2. “Abortion clinic” means a facility, other than a hospital, in which five or more first trimester abortions in any month or any second or third trimester abortions are performed.
So if a general practitioner or gynecologist with a posh office in Scottsdale keeps it to five or fewer abortions a month s/he can provide them to patients without going through most of the rigamarole placed on the clinics that serve non-wealthy women. Nice, huh? Gotta hand it to right wingers. They sure are good at exempting themselves from the pain they want to dish out to others.
The other thing the bill does is ban insurance coverage for abortion from women using the federal ACA exchange by changing the language of the existing law that only pertains to state run plan to any health care exchange operating in the state. Neat how they didn’t want to set up a state exchange under the ACA but now they want to tell the federal one what it can do (and it already doesn’t use federal funds to cover abortion because compromise had to be made with anti-choice Dems to get the ACA passed). It’s unlikely antis are even going to pretend this is about “safety” so I’m guessing they’re going with the argument that godly virtuous Americans should not have to subsidize women getting the dirty slut operations. Even if said women are paying 100% of the costs of the premiums for their insurance themselves*.
Because abortions can run from a few hundred to several thousand dollars, blocking coverage in insurance can put a huge financial strain on women, leading some of them to delay their procedures or resort to unsafe, illegal methods. Kermit Gosnell’s horror show clinic, which antis constantly throw in everyone’s faces as the consummate example of why legal abortion is so terribly unsafe and needs to be strictly regulated (by them) was in large part the result of anti-abortion policies (such as bans on government funding and insurance coverage) that have made it difficult for women to get safe first trimester abortions. Never forget that if anti-choicers get their way, there will be more Kermit Gosnells, not fewer. These are seriously not the people who should ever be put in charge of the safety of abortion yet, they are, and none but a few lonely pro-choice voices are calling attention to this alarming situation.
*You would not believe how often I encounter anti-choicers who seem to be mystified by the concept that women who use contraception and get abortions work and pay taxes and insurance premiums just like everyone else and are not lying around waiting for other people to “pay for” those things. We really just want what we are already working and paying for, thanks.